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Now when you worked with Toby, was he one of the first vets to start using tranquilizer guns?… Read More

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I think it was Tucson. Tucson. Yeah. No, he was in Texas. Oh, oh, Toby was in Texas. Toby was in Texas. He was the vet at- Anyway, he sent my good word. Read More

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Yes. Wasn’t the first. The first tranquilizer gun I came across was in Catskill, the inventor of the tranquilizer gun. Somebody, I don’t remember his name. Red Palmer. And Red Palmer sold the first tranquilizer gun to Roland Lindemann, and I used it at Catskill, used it in front of… Read More

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Limousine?… Read More

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Do you remember where he was?… Read More

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Picking up people in the airport. And he called one day, one night. He had picked up Toby Tobias’s daughter. I didn’t even know he had a daughter, but he talked to her, and found out Toby was retired. Read More

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Sure. Read More

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And what was your relationship?… Read More

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Oh, Toby Tobias was a vet. He was a hell of a good vet. My son, for a while before he died, he was driving, driving a vehicle. Limousine. Read More

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Yeah, Roland Lindemann ran a much improved version of the zoo. It was very well run in Fort Worth. Was more of a zoo that featured the general curator. Whatever, director. Read More

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Did you work with Toby Tobias?… Read More

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With John. Hummingbirds and the plane. Yeah. Yeah, we had to feed the hummingbirds on the plane coming back. Yeah, it was something. And ask him about the pink porpoise. He was involved in it. Wait a minute. Wait a minute. We didn’t bring any pink porpoise. Read More

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No, no, no. That’s separate. I said ask you about the pink porpoise. That was a separate thing. That was a separate thing. Well, let me ask you, Frank, a question. Read More

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When you, basic, when you came from this privately run zoo by Roland Lindemann to a more public zoo, operated by the city of Fort Worth, did you see differences in the way it was run, both of them were run?… Read More

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Didn’t you bring back some hummingbirds that trip?… Read More

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What?… Read More

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didn’t you bring back that trip?… Read More

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For Atlanta Zoo, Fort Worth Zoo?… Read More

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Fort Worth Zoo, yeah. Read More