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The crates that they originally came in are (chuckles) out here, crumbling away. There were three, three, one, and one. That’s the number of animals kept in each crate. They were housed in the big barn, the eight. The barn was much different than it is now, the interior. The… Read More

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Mostly successful?… Read More

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Mostly successful. In my own case, I would say totally unsuccessful. I trained Connie. I sold her to a circus where I thought she was, I knew she was going to. Somebody had another Asian. African. Read More

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What?… Read More

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Did you have to educate them?… Read More

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Tried to. Read More

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Did you find that the people you were selling animals to in general, in the United States, were as knowledgeable about the animals that they were buying as you would like them to have been?… Read More

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As best I remember, I went directly to Africa. I can’t tell you who, but I have the correspondence with African dealers somewhere out there. Read More

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No. Read More

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When you were dealing with your last shipment of elephants, or even the first one, you were working, did you have to work through a intermediary, like an animal dealer like Frans?… Read More

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No. Read More

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directly to Africa?… Read More

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Was this from Africa or from Asia?… Read More

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No, not from Asia. Africans. Asian elephants, all right, look. Let me do this. In dealing with elephants, I owned or dealt with 55 Africans, something like 32 Asians. Of those 32 Asians, I didn’t bring one out of Asia. I bought them and resold them in this country. Africans… Read More

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The last shipment I brought in was eight. I have a letter, wherever my files, I’d find it, but I have a letter from the countries, the man in the country of origin asking me questions about what should we do to straighten out our laws, and I answered him. Read More

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Yes. Read More

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And how difficult was it to bring these animals over?… Read More

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Not difficult at all. If you had the money, you got the animals. Read More

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You brought elephants in. Yup. Read More

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In my opinion, no. Zoos have gotten smart enough so they know how to do business. Zoos are a lot more knowledgeable about the laws. They used to know absolutely nothing about the laws, which is a dangerous situation to be in. That dealers knew more about the laws, but… Read More

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