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And then you said in college you were thinking or more aware of zoos?… Read More

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How did that come about?… Read More

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College was University of Illinois in Champaign. ‘Cause it was a family tradition. You know, dad had gone there. Grandpa had gone there. So it was just kind of a thing. My sister had gone there. And it’s an in-state school, so again, costs were down. That helped. Read More

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But it had a good reputation, so. Read More

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What was your degree in?… Read More

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So what was your schooling like?… Read More

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You mentioned college. Read More

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Where did you go to college and academic?… Read More

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None. Mm-mm. Sorry. Zoos didn’t come ’til, I didn’t think about it ’til college. Read More

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You didn’t think about zoos or working with animals?… Read More

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I guess I always thought I wanted to work with animals, but you know, a lot of us wanted to grow up and be veterinarians until you found out the amount of work that was involved in it. And there weren’t that many jobs. At that. Read More

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See zoos when you were growing up?… Read More

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Did you have any… Not that much that I remember. We were a frugal family. So if we did, we would’ve gone on free day, but I don’t remember going to a lot of zoos. Read More

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As child, do you remember any zoos that made an impression on you?… Read More

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Were animals part of your life?… Read More

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And then they would have puppies. And I’d go down to the creek and, or crick if you call it that here, and pick things out of there and bring them home and bring the tadpoles and put them in mom’s kitchen. She loved that. And put up with it,… Read More

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Usually. Yep. My grandpa was really big into nature. So he would take us on little hikes. You know, when mom and dad got tired of us he’d take us on and we’d go for hikes and he was more into lichens and moss. I was picking up the bugs… Read More

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Well they had a full hand raising me, but Dad was a microbiologist by trade. I mean that’s what he did, but he ended up going into the family business which was a canning company that did tomatoes, hominy. And beans. Read More

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And mom was a housewife until they closed the canning company and she went back to work as an art teacher. So you grew up in Peoria. Yes, sir. Tell us a little about growing up in Peoria. Read More

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How about that?… Read More