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Interview 22877 – Caption Index: 244

Okay, yeah, so we had Golden monkeys for six, three months, or six months. Well, lemme digress quickly, ’cause you mentioned golden monkeys. You had been with the high profile pandas, rare animals in the United States. And now the Golden monkeys, rare primates, were at the Milwaukee Zoo. Read More

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No, no, they didn’t. I mean, I’m sure they drew some people, but, I mean, they came with, they were cared for by the, Chinese people came with them. They were cared for by their regular caretakers and all the rest. I will say my panda experience probably helped get… Read More

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Did they make the kind of impression that the pandas had made?… Read More

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Were the koalas as much of a headache as the pandas had been?… Read More

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And you were bringing, did you bring in the koalas or were they there?… Read More

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No, the koalas were brought in… They had visiting Koalas before I was there. The year I was there, they had golden monkeys. First year I was there, they had golden monkeys from China as a temporary exhibit. The golden monkeys were making the rounds. I think they went to… Read More

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Were they at any of the zoos here?… Read More

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Speidel had a house on the zoo grounds and when Boese became director, he had to live on the zoo grounds. And Boese and Schulz said, well, you know, just pay $400 a month, well, people knew how much rent was for a three bedroom house in Milwaukee and Wauwatosa,… Read More

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And the final thing was Dave Schulz was the county supervisor at the time. I mean, was the head of the county and, Boese, so the, and when Boese had applied to become director at the National Zoo, they were gonna pay him more than he was being made in… Read More

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So I probably became curator of large mammals when Chuck was there. Read More

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It was known in the museum community as the Wednesday afternoon massacre, because they were told that they had to start raising more money. And were not gonna get the, didn’t discuss this with the director or the assistant directors, and the two assistant directors resigned. The director of the… Read More

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I’ve forgotten what the, Boese announced that he was leaving. He was going to become director of the Lowry Park Zoo in Florida. I should’ve brushed up on my history before I came here. And he and Lillian worked, oh yeah, I remember part of it. He and Lillian were… Read More

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Okay, Boese was staying. The problems were that they were so linked together, Dr. Boese and Lillian, that he would leave Lillian in charge of the zoo if he left, and she was not a county employee. And as when accreditation became part of the, you know, zoos needed to… Read More

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And I remember he was one of the, Boese was one of the finalists at the, when Ted retired from the National Zoo, because I remember his name on the list. And that created problems for him later, (sighs) oh God, this is a complicated thing. Okay, I knew that… Read More

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It was fun. And I’ve obviously, what was the question again? (laughing) Well, you’re bringing this up to the various directors. So George Speidel ultimately leaves. He ultimately left, yes. And Boese was hired as the new director. He was here at Brookfield. And, I guess, George Rabb, he and… Read More

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So the county board decided that they, or cultural organizations needed to be more proactive in raising money and voted for the Milwaukee Public Museum, that the top, the director and all the assistant directors had to, how did they put it?… Read More

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And so whenever we had to do anything with, you know, animal escape drills, you had three different groups that you have to deal with, because it depends on if the animal’s gonna get out, where is it gonna go?… Read More

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is it gonna be in Wauwatosa? Is it gonna be in West Allis?… Read More

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Is it gonna be in Milwaukee?… Read More

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And there were two zoological societies competing for a while, I guess, and both German. And didn’t get along and never got along. And the Washington Park Zoological Society was the one that finally became primary. So they provided all the animals for the zoo up until the 50s or… Read More

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