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Interview 24641 – Caption Index: 198

It was hard to keep a low profile in that, but I did my best. But finally, Campbell… My budgets were always a problem. And nobody taught me about budgets, including him. But I did learn, and I was able to with his, he had a guy in there who… Read More

Interview 24641 – Caption Index: 194

Charles became a little bit unhappy, with the publicity that the zoo was getting. Read More

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And he calls Dolan says, “I want, could you?… Read More

Interview 24641 – Caption Index: 196

Here’s some stories for you on the parks.” And Dolan just said, “Well really, that isn’t. When you have something different, let me hear from you.” And Dolan really didn’t like Campbell from the beginning. And I never, I never took advantage of the fact that I had helped him… Read More

Interview 24641 – Caption Index: 191

He’s just very a simple person, but very organized, very well organized. Read More

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And not show off-ish, or what do you call it?… Read More

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Someone who’s outgoing. An extrovert. Huh? Extrovert. He was more of an introvert, so they hired him, and he was my boss then. He was very friendly to me and I helped him. You know, he’d come ask me, “Tell me about these people,” you know. And I was sort… Read More

Interview 24641 – Caption Index: 188

And he comes to the aquarium, to my office at the zoo, and he says, you know, “Who should we hire?… Read More

Interview 24641 – Caption Index: 189

You know all these people, give me a name.” Well, I had made a talk at some Texas Parks thing not a year or two earlier, about zoo signs. And the guy who had organized that was a guy named Charles Campbell, and he was the director of parks in… Read More

Interview 24641 – Caption Index: 190

And so he says, “Well, call him up.” So I call up Campbell and I’m, you know, first name basis. And he says, “Well, what’s going on?” And I said, “Well, Mr. Hittson got relieved today of his park director duties. And I have one of the chairman of the… Read More

Interview 24641 – Caption Index: 185

Well, not by choice. You haven’t asked me about the zoo management systems yet. But zoos started out as, you know, a park in the city, just a few deer, and that sort of thing. As the cities grow bigger, then they put the zoos in the park department and… Read More

Interview 24641 – Caption Index: 186

The zoo was a big PR plus for the park department, but there was a lot of jealousy there. We need to, you know, build this recreation thing. We need to put park benches over here and all of that. So there’s competition. And there’s a little jealousy there when… Read More

Interview 24641 – Caption Index: 187

But he had a problem of his own with management. They didn’t fire him, but they lowered him. Okay. I had some good friends on the park board. One of them got himself appointed as the search committee to replace Mr. Hittson. Read More

Interview 24641 – Caption Index: 182

And their sonar is just so highly developed. And we put in, you know, underwater microphones. And if we had a guy at TCU. Oh, and I also taught at TCU, by the way. I was associate, an adjunct professor there, and taught for I think about 12 years, and… Read More

Interview 24641 – Caption Index: 183

They were great. Now, you mentioned they had a baby after you left. After I left. Read More

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Why did you decide to leave?… Read More

Interview 24641 – Caption Index: 179

And later on, they bred and had a baby, after I’d left, but they had a baby. And I made one huge mistake, one huge mistake. A cosmetic mistake, but it was huge. We kept calling these pink dolphins, ’cause that’s what they call them down there, pink dolphins. Actually,… Read More

Interview 24641 – Caption Index: 180

Anyway, when we were building, we had a swimming pool builder built that pool. And at the, I mean, remember we did this in 60 days. The builder, we wanted epoxy in there, you know, finished. The guy said, “What color do you want?” And I mean, this is like,… Read More

Interview 24641 – Caption Index: 181

Well they did that. When the pink dolphins went in this blue tank, they turned gray. Stupid. Well, I wasn’t thinking. But anyway, but they lived, they did. They were wonderful animals. They were an wonderful. You know, they’re very amorous. The pink dolphin is, the river is so, not… Read More

Interview 24641 – Caption Index: 177

That crate was right in the middle of the cabin actually, in and out of the cabin. And when the guy was flying, was getting ready to land, (chuckles) the water in that thing, the top was open, just rushed out into the pilot’s cabin. And it stank to high… Read More

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