(Jan laughs) Yeah, I mean you can. I would guess it was no different than guys getting together and saying. Dang, I’m having this problem with staffing and doing this or that. So we talked the normal same things. Only once do I remember, and that was more at a… Read More
The thing is you wanted to get to this outcome and it didn’t matter who got you there. You know, so you did your work professionally and. Called in the favors that you could when you did until people recognize that you had some worth and oh, maybe we can… Read More
You know, just a few friends of, and we would set goals, you know?… Read More
We would get together, some of us, at conference and have a luncheon. Read More
You were always aware of it. I think you had to just do what you were supposed to do. You had to do your job and let people know. I’m here. I’m gonna do what I’m gonna do. You can accept me or not. Some people would never. Read More
Most guys are used to, at that point are used to seeing women either I date them, they’re my sister or my mom. You know, it’s not like oh, you can be on the same level as I have and by golly you can actually talk and walk at the… Read More
It took a long time I think for men to see women in certain positions, but that was just the way it was then, you know?… Read More
How did that affect you personally?… Read More
You were a woman director. Thank you for noticing. In a profession dominated by men. Read More
Did you have issues at any level with that?… Read More
Issues?… Read More
Making rounds?… Read More
‘Cause people are busy, you know?… Read More
I think, again, it’s… I think staff is very aware if you’re not out there doing something. You know, they would often complain about oh, you know, the parks people don’t know what we have to do. You never see the director of parks over here walking through or doing… Read More
And did you make rounds of the zoo?… Read More
Oh, we would have, yeah. Every morning we’d have a meeting. With staff, all of staff, just before we got out. Actually they would come in, everybody had to do a walkthrough first of their areas, come back, have a meeting so everybody knew what was going on or what… Read More
Was that important to you?… Read More
How big was Glen Oak Zoo in acreage?… Read More
But it was good. Even bad press can be good press. So yes, sometimes you still did it. You still had to give breaks to the people at the front desk or the concessions or whatever. So yes, part of my job was still to have to go around and… Read More
Seven acres. Back in the day. Read More