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So we had to go pick it up and now my next challenge was how do I get a tiger into Johns Hopkins Hospital?… Read More

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And so they called me out to the zoo when I was at Hopkins and said, “We’ve got this tiger that’s sick”, and it was Gunther Gable Williams’s tiger. And he was a character. Unbelievable man. And he said, “Look at this, this animal is passing this stool, abnormal stool.”… Read More

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So they said, I said, “Well, I’d like to do some diagnostic workup on it, and you know, check.” He said, “Okay, we leave it here with you”, they gave me a cage. Read More

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Oh my gosh, let’s see, I think, I … Ringling Brothers … I started that when I was at Hopkins, Ringling Brothers would contact local veterinarians in the cities that they were performing, and have them on call. They had … Oh, I can’t think of the first veterinarian’s name. Read More

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When was this?… Read More

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As a sidebar, did you consult with Ringling Brothers?… Read More

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What was the turning point when you said, “Hey, I think I wanna apply to this zoo, and start this different side of my career?” Well it was, it fed into my interest in doing clinical medicine and surgery, and not doing a lot of the basic research. I thought… Read More

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Oh yes. Read More

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What times were you at Hopkins?… Read More

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So what was the turning, were you happy at John Hopkins?… Read More

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What were the years, ’66 or … Ooh, let’s see, I graduated in 1965. I was at Angel for about two years, and so that would’ve been ’67. And then I went to National Zoo at 1972, so it’s about five years there, right around the time of 1970s, early… Read More

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Had gleaning experience from that you could transfer over?… Read More

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What kind of things were you …… Read More

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Well, the things I think I learned from Hopkins was some surgery skills, I continued, you know, working with human surgeons on certain cases, and things, they were doing radiology, I think I developed an appreciation and hopefully some expertise in that, because I was helping with some of the… Read More

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So you were, almost became the defacto part-time veterinarian for the zoo?… Read More

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I was, yeah. Basically I was Baltimore Zoo’s veterinarian. While you’re still doing your full-time job. Right. Read More

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And when you had this opportunity to, did you bring things from Johns Hopkins that you had learned to your exotic animal practice, so to speak, as you were doing it?… Read More

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he never showed up again. Yeah, when I was there I used M99 for the first time, which I … And unfortunately I killed a waterbuck, and the first time I used Xylazine, you know, I lost an animal. But that was just the way it was when we started… Read More

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And so that was some of the work that I did while I was still at Hopkins. Read More

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And was the part-time veterinarian, you said you were alone, wasn’t he assisting in the case?… Read More