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Interview 24153 – Caption Index: 275

Cuneo. That’s what I thought. He decided he would take this giving elephant rides with Liz and went into, into Omaha with her. God almighty, big old truck. It just about made it everywhere it went. He had her here. I don’t remember what he went to Ringling for. You… Read More

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All right, she belonged to?… Read More

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Yes. Read More

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From common sense. We weren’t being rough with ’em. It’s common sense on the part of circus trainers to go well at it. And when the elephant doesn’t do what you expect it to do, knock hell out of it, jab it in the leg with a bull hook. I… Read More

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How’d you develop those, from your experience?… Read More

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‘Cause she’s costing you money here. Well, you’re constantly training with no end in sight. You can’t handle an elephant without training. It realizes you want something, and it does it. Read More

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So when did you decide you had to start training Connie to do something?… Read More

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Did you have different training methods that you were saying you thought would work better?… Read More

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Connie?… Read More

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Well, you’re talking about Connie the elephant. As you’re progressing, you have an elephant now, and you’re trying to figure out what to do with it. Yeah. Okay. Tom came in here with his wife and two or three elephants. Two elephants I think he had at first. Read More

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And they came in, they were chained out in the field, out in front. They had nothing to do with Connie. Obviously she knew the elephants were there. They were aware of her being here too. They saw each other usually. So he was here with two elephants, and they… Read More

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We had no plan for it, but she was here, and we loved her. We took her out in the field, out in front. It was well fenced. She walked along with us and became a trained elephant. Not very well trained but trained. Our son Tom was working with… Read More

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Tom met his wife there. His wife had been, this girl, had been boss showgirl on the Ringling show and was hired away from the Ringling show by Cliff Vargas, who was a gay and means nothing, a gay guy that owned this, this fabulous big show on the West… Read More

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Where was I?… Read More

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The three were sold by Allen Campbell, who was then in Little Rock?… Read More

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What was your plan for this elephant now?… Read More

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Baton Rouge. He had gone from being a keeper in Jacksonville to getting the title of elephant trainer in Baton Rouge. He did a salesmanship job on them, and it was a pretty good damn trainer. Anyway. Connie was not trained, not sold simply because we kept her hidden while… Read More

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All right. Connie grew a tusk, not a tusk, a wart on the side of her face where her tusk would’ve come out. This was a wart, a wart that started when she was here maybe four weeks, three, four weeks. But by the time she got any size to… Read More

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We didn’t advertise that we had another elephant. This is a good salesmanship. Once we moved her, she started rubbing the tusk on the concrete wall, and she eventually rubbed it completely off. By that time, we were in love with her, so that’s why we kept her. Read More

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So eight of ’em. This took a good part of the afternoon, just doing that much training. Anyway, Connie, you’re with a wart on her face. Somewhere along about 30 days, we separated her. We put her around in a little barn that was in good shape then. Kept her… Read More

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