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Interview 24153 – Caption Index: 295

Not that I’m aware of. If somebody complained, not to me but just complained about an animal not being treated properly, we got into action right away. Certainly. Read More

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Now, Frank, you mentioned that people were upset about Connie being chained up. Yes. with little adjustments so they didn’t- Well, I fixed it by replacing the chain with an nylon leash. Read More

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We don’t wait for animal rights organizations. You listen to the public very carefully, and we heard enough so that we changed that leash from a chain to a nylon leash. Do it instantly. Read More

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Did you have issues with animal rights organizations when you were doing this kind of thing or just individual citizens?… Read More

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And the girl said, “When do I get on her?” And I said, “Well, this may be a little rough, but try it.” She came up to the platform, and the girl got on her back and sat there. And the elephant walked ahead and walked around the loop, a… Read More

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Did you have a howdah made for Connie yet?… Read More

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What did the girl, girl had something to hold onto to, I remember. Yes, yes. She had a baby howdah. Just a different, the only difference were baby ones. And she came back to the platform and stood there. The girl got off, and she walked around again with nobody. Read More

Interview 24153 – Caption Index: 285

It’s up a hillside, not open to the public, up a hillside. And at the top of the hill, we parked our vehicles, and the elephant stayed up there and came down the hill in the morning every day and went back at night. Connie, again, still, wouldn’t have anything… Read More

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Nobody said anything. Once in a while, we’d turn ’em loose at the end of the day and Connie would follow the other elephant wherever she went. And we’d take, drove them back, back up, up the hill, back up to their trailer. About somewhere along about July 15, I… Read More

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And, “She can’t get her. She can’t nurse. It’s an Asian elephant doing rides,” and Connie was an African elephant. Two totally different species. And the public right away, “It’s mother and baby.” So I bought a heavy nylon leash the same length as the chain. Used the leash to… Read More

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We took her in, up, and had to hire an elephant trucker to move the elephant from?… Read More

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Hawthorn. Hawthorn Corporation was Cuneo’s. Hawthorn Corp, yeah. From Cuneo’s to Omaha. I met her at Omaha. She and Connie loved each other instantly. I led Connie. You have to see the Omaha Zoo. Read More

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From?… Read More

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We got a hold of Liz?… Read More

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Tom was invited to come to Circus Vargas, and he went to Circus Vargas. Read More

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Is it Liz or Debbie? I can’t remember. Cuneo. We took two of them out from Cuneo’s place, two different ones. Liz was one and I think Debbie was the other one. And I can’t remember that year, whether you had Debbie when Connie watched your rides, that year. I… Read More

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And this was 1989, right?… Read More

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with the clowns and they needed a, their elephants were out on the road, and they needed an elephant that was manageable enough to stand with strangers, the clowns. He took her over there, and they made the commercial, and then came back. Yeah, anyway. He was booked into Omaha… Read More

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I’m not sure. Well, I’m pretty sure. Going by the age of Connie, we had Connie about a year by then, ’89. And we went ahead. We used Connie at a Circus Days celebration in Sarasota. We could truck her around and use her for being an elephant. We still… Read More

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You couldn’t even get to come up to a platform with somebody standing on the platform. And it was at this point Tom was booked in to Omaha for the summer with a ride elephant. Somehow, I don’t know how he worked it or who did, who did what to… Read More

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