Yes. I can’t remember now (chuckling), but elephants in particular ought to be wandering around a field rather than. Frank, a question about, we’re talking about dealing with animals and selling, buying and selling. Read More
But had you formulated some ideas based on your experience about ways for zoos to improve design and exhibits?… Read More
To what extent did your business government regulations over the years complicate the importation, if at all?… Read More
Keep her away from Asians. Yes. (chuckling) I don’t know where I was. I lost my train of thought. And she was going to the circus. Yeah, I was- Someone who knew. Physically, I was getting rough to handle her. He had a stroke and was diagnosed with diabetes right… Read More
Just my left arm. It’s fine now. Now let me ask a another question here though. Read More
While you were in the animal business and you were working Connie, you were also doing some things as a zoo designer and a consultant?… Read More
Eh. Very little. Read More
Where did Connie go?… Read More
All right, she was sold to a circus, Culpepper and Merriweather Circus. It’s a little show, but they had an Asian elephant. Young, the same age as Connie. Excuse me, it was an African, like Connie. It wasn’t an Asian. it was an African. You’re right. Because she was going… Read More
Remember the banana, how she would try to get the banana under the wire?… Read More
That’s the only shock she ever had. Read More
She would go- No, I don’t remember. No. But Frank, when you were training Connie, you realized that positive reinforcement was the best way. Sure. The only way, as far as I’m concerned. The only time I was rough with her was the day before she was picked up as… Read More
What was the occasion?… Read More
No, I worked her giving rides. I came back, and in November when we went over to the, it’s now a baseball field, a dome over in St. Pete. Read More
It was the Halloween celebration that you went, took the elephant over there for. It hadn’t quite finished the inside yet. Well, Jesus. There’s a dome. And we took her over there. Was fine with the children. We walked in and walked out. We had to have a police guard… Read More
She was perfectly handled. We worked at a house out on the island, a birthday party. Somebody wanted to spend the money to hire an elephant ride for a birthday party. We were- Frank, mention how it came upon, the method to get her to lie down. Read More
Yes. Read More
And how long did you work her or did you ultimately have to move her to a zoo?… Read More
Just a follow-up question, when you were director of either Evansville or Jacksonville, which we’ll talk about, but when you were director, did you ever have problems with animal rights people?… Read More
Not that I’m aware of. If somebody complained, not to me but just complained about an animal not being treated properly, we got into action right away. Certainly. Read More