Well, I don’t know if you talk about educational value. I think just the contact, you know, just contact with the animals have educational value. We do animal talks. I mean, do a camel talk every, during the summer, where animals come out and, you know, the keeper will make… Read More
Do you think that animal rides, in general, have educational value for children or adults, I guess?… Read More
How involved at the zoo, Milwaukee Zoo, where you spent most of your time, were you involved in budgeting and policymaking at your level?… Read More
My management plan changed immediately. We stopped breeding. You know, we’re not replacing any animals until this goes. And I’m going, and this was two years before, this was a year before we were supposed to start construction, so yeah. So I know how not to do it. I’m not… Read More
We still have pony rides. I think the camel rides have stopped. The elephant rides, getting rid of the elephant rides was part of the whole Lota deal, so we got rid of elephant rides and we still, one of the elephants at the zoo used to be one of… Read More
What are your thoughts on animal rides in zoos, be they pony rides or elephant rides or animal rides or?… Read More
And I’m at this meeting with all these people and they said, and, you know, and where are the animals going to be?… Read More
And Bruce says, “Oh no, they’re gonna be there.” And I’m thinking, “You’re gonna tell me this when, that we’re gonna be doing construction and I have to keep the animals?… Read More
You know, are you going to, you know, where do we do this?… Read More
And they decided they were gonna do a mock-up of the, help us, sort of how we could redesign the feline building. Read More
And I’m going, “I know how we do it here. This is not what I’m going to learn.” But I finally went and I came back and I said, “Well, you know, you’ve got your five-year plan and you do this.” Bruce says, “Well, we don’t do it that way.”… Read More
Were you involved ever as a curator in the future planning of zoo exhibits and, or recommendations to bring certain animals into the Milwaukee Zoo?… Read More
Mm-hmm, we did, well, we did several renovations when I was there. Bruce had a very interesting way of doing animal, I mean, Milwaukee had a very interesting way of deciding what they were going to do. He was, remember, there were like four or five master plans that were… Read More
Did you have issues like that at Milwaukee when you were dealing with all your staff?… Read More
I mean, in general?… Read More
In general, I had one, I think I had one EEO suite. I discriminated against him because he was Hispanic, but it didn’t go anywhere. So it never got to the level as it did with CJ. Read More
Did they ever affect you, and for example, the equal opportunity, did you have keepers complain about your style or what you were doing and how you were managing them?… Read More
But you deal with people. Read More
Oh yeah, well, I had one keeper at the National Zoo who wanted to work elephants and, strange individual, but, you know, we were, Don was working with us and I went into the hay room and he’s working with an Angus and just going, just bearing it in hale… Read More
I think the controversy was just this one woman who never let it go. She spent two and a half years getting the elephants out of Milwaukee, and that’s all she did. And, you know, when you’ve got a job and someone is spending two and a half years working… Read More