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Interview 24641 – Caption Index: 91

Hell, you wouldn’t know, is this high or low?… Read More

Interview 24641 – Caption Index: 92

There wasn’t any data. So a lot of it was discovery. And the main thing I wanted to work on with that zoo, in addition to the husbandry, I just thought it was a great opportunity to teach for educate the public. And we did a lot of that. You… Read More

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And this armadillo just wouldn’t eat. And finally, somehow, I guess there was some excrement on his shell, his carapace. I gave him, got some warm, tepid water, gave him a warm bath and put him back in. About 10 minutes later I was in the living room, heard a… Read More

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But then you learn from, if you’re smart, you learn from your mistakes. And so I had your… You asked about nutrition. We just tried to, it was a lot of it was experimental. Try this on this animal. I got a giant armadillo, a little one, and I couldn’t… Read More

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And in fact, I must tell you this. That getting a degree, whatever, even zoology, which my degree was, I didn’t know anything about finance. I knew nothing about budgeting, obviously, from the aquarium thing we did. And personnel management, we never learned anything like that. And time, you know,… Read More

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You need to read “Life Magazine.” So when were you working with these unusual animals, what was your general approach, not only to them, but to the animals now that you were in charge of at the zoo about the care of these animals?… Read More

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The care of the animals at the Fort Worth Zoo were, I’d have to say it was a learning experience. Very little was known. We didn’t have Lee Crandall’s book on mammal care in captivity. We had a lot of material from the Philadelphia Zoo where they made up completely,… Read More

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Ivan Sanderson, I found out, was in Africa collecting animals. He had a giant pangolin. He had a male giant pangolin. And I wrote him and said, “I’m really interested in this.” He said, “Oh, they’re very hard to keep. I doubt if you’ve got one now, if, you know,… Read More

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I was told that when Ivan Sanderson got off the boat, he had scheduled a press conference. And he talked about this pangolin he had. And somebody said, “Oh, here. Read More

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You know, like Julius Squeezer for a snake, you know, a boa constrictor. And the best one I remember was Olivia de Javelina, all at the Arizona Sonora Desert Museum. And then of course, the mate to Olivia de Javelina was Gregory Peccary, wonderful names. And the public remembers those… Read More

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One of them is a giant pangolin. Hell, this long. And I’ve really worked learned about, you’re in my Eden, tapeman, you know how it is. We worked with a different, I mean, I fed him the same thing that the doctor had been feeding them. But then he would… Read More

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Do you remember Ivan Sanderson?… Read More

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When I first got to Fort Worth, I really started, I had a chance there to do something. At Dallas, it was just, I’d designed all kinds of things and they, “Yeah, that’s nice. When we get a bond issue, we’ll think about that,” and all. Fort Worth, I could… Read More

Interview 24641 – Caption Index: 78

They’ll come see it and all that. In my herpetological work, there was a guy in California who sold papers, books and things, on herpetology. And when I wrote him and said, “Send my catalogs to the Fort Worth Zoo,” he said, “Oh, you’re in the zoos,” yeah. He said,… Read More

Interview 24641 – Caption Index: 79

Which there were three pangolins in it. And I found out nobody else had any pangolins. I wrote a letter to the, at the Basel Zoo, Lang, whom I get a got correspondence going with. He said, “I don’t know of any of them anywhere.” I said, “Man, I’ve got… Read More

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What started to shape your views on zoos and opinions about zoo development?… Read More

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Was it starting then?… Read More

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And I got to know my colleagues who were all older than I was, much older. Read More

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Hittson had been putting out this surplus list for the AAZPA. I had written a few articles for the, which Roger had published in the magazine. Well, he says, “You’re gonna put the surplus list, so you put it out.” Well, that made me, that was a committee assignment. And… Read More

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What started when you took this directorship, and you were now involved with AZA?… Read More

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