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(Elizabeth sighs) Was it after?… Read More

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So you had the title as general curator?… Read More

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I was general curator. Read More

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And, let’s see, when did the change happen?… Read More

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This was a year after I had started, so. Read More

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Well, I had to apply for the job. So, yeah, I did apply for the job, but I started interviewing around in case, you know, I didn’t get the job. So I interviewed at Central Park Zoo, Jim Murtaugh, who I had worked with at the, who was a keeper… Read More

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Did you apply for the job?… Read More

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Let’s see, I started in February and Ken was asked to resign soon after I started. And so, but he signed a letter of resignation, thinking that he was going to get a job just by making some phone calls. And he didn’t. Read More

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And ’cause I wanted to be assistant general curator. I didn’t know how to be a curator over, you know, my experience with reptiles and birds was minimal. And maybe he left early. Anyway, so they left the acting, the assistant general curator job open. I became acting general curator. Read More

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And he left in December of that year and I became acting general curator, was it?… Read More

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And at what point did you change titles and responsibilities?… Read More

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Not really, I mean, I just, well, my experience from the National Zoo worked well for most of it, yeah. And as the, well, you were then the assistant general curator. Correct. Read More

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Did you have any mentors there?… Read More

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So were you, when you were there, getting used to things, were you learning from anybody specifically, leaning on anybody?… Read More

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At at that point, there were, yes. There was a female registrar. When Bruce became assistant director, he thought he could be both assistant director and vet, and when he ended up in the hospital, he realized they needed to hire somebody else and so the head vet was a… Read More

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Were there other women in senior staff positions?… Read More

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You’d say, well, which animal is that?… Read More

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They couldn’t tell their animals apart. I wasn’t used to that. That was difficult to get used to. But no, Ken Kawata was not a popular general curator, so I think the fact that I wasn’t Ken and I was coming around, helped, helped me. Everybody thought Ken, that Dr. Read More

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And I’d worked with Bruce as a vet when he was a vet. Read More

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And if so, how did you do that?… Read More