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Interview 26791 – Caption Index: 166

You know?… Read More

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I want people to be able to think on their feet so that if I got run over by the bus, the whole place doesn’t go, oh my God, what are we gonna do tomorrow?… Read More

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You know, Larry’s not here to make the decision. I want those people to be able to step in and make the decision. Now, that’s taking risk. And, you know, some days, I have to be honest with you, I felt we were vulnerable. Not to the point where we… Read More

Interview 26791 – Caption Index: 159

And I’ve tried to instill that into the people that when I retired are still there. And I’m still seeing very favorable results. So don’t just be happy with the status quo. That’s not the way I was raised and the way I ran the collection in San Diego. As… Read More

Interview 26791 – Caption Index: 158

Or do you pause and go a different direction?… Read More

Interview 26791 – Caption Index: 161

I want people to grow. Read More

Interview 26791 – Caption Index: 160

When I was growing up, never really had a boss that was an over-the-shoulder kind of person, you know?… Read More

Interview 26791 – Caption Index: 156

If you have an opportunity to collect and get something for the zoo, is that the right move for the zoo?… Read More

Interview 26791 – Caption Index: 157

Is that the best move you can make for the collection?… Read More

Interview 26791 – Caption Index: 155

What is the best?… Read More

Interview 26791 – Caption Index: 154

Already had a vision. I mean, again, I had watched and learned from people that made a lot of mistakes and people that were successful. And I tried to pick what I thought was the best approach to managing people and managing collections. One of the things, and I still… Read More

Interview 26791 – Caption Index: 152

Yeah, maybe a few additional responsibilities, but basically, it was just getting the mess cleaned up, making sure they’re all getting paid equally as well, or if there’s a seniority issue, making sure that that was addressed as well. So, you know, again, there’s a lot of rudimentary work that… Read More

Interview 26791 – Caption Index: 153

Now, during this time, were you forming your philosophy about zoo management or did you already have a vision?… Read More

Interview 26791 – Caption Index: 150

This is just not gonna work. So again, we got all that cleared up and I didn’t lose anybody in the process of doing that. They all understood it. I was just honest and open with ’em. I said you’re not curators, you will be someday if you wanna stick… Read More

Interview 26791 – Caption Index: 151

So again, a lot of that seems wonky and, you know, were there additional responsibilities?… Read More

Interview 26791 – Caption Index: 148

No, no. I had built up, I thought, a very good relationship, you know, fair but tough with these folks because again, they’re young staff, very young staff, in their twenties, I think the oldest staff member I had might have been in early thirties. So not a lot of… Read More

Interview 26791 – Caption Index: 147

Was it different now that you are the boss?… Read More

Interview 26791 – Caption Index: 149

So if anything, for your own career, I think it’s best we retitle everybody here, not affecting your pay, just changing titles. And so I took curator title away from just about everybody, but the one who ended up being the general curator, and rebuilt that. Now, they have curator… Read More

Interview 26791 – Caption Index: 145

You know, I didn’t realize that but it needed it. And Joe saw that, and the board agreed, and adopted those titles. So then you end up with I think five officers and, you know, your CEO and all things. So everything was tidy and nice, and everybody was happy. Read More

Interview 26791 – Caption Index: 144

It was just a title they gave me to, like, someone said if you have any more titles, you’re not gonna be able to get it on a business card. And I said well, I’m happy with where you left me or where I am. And I said, you know,… Read More

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