They had done all these, bought these animals. And Campbell just was against that. In no uncertain terms, he said, “I do not want you to cooperate to that. The city has built that zoo, I mean, it was the beginning. And we don’t want to lose it, it’s good… Read More
It was hard to keep a low profile in that, but I did my best. But finally, Campbell… My budgets were always a problem. And nobody taught me about budgets, including him. But I did learn, and I was able to with his, he had a guy in there who… Read More
And he calls Dolan says, “I want, could you?… Read More
Charles became a little bit unhappy, with the publicity that the zoo was getting. Read More
Here’s some stories for you on the parks.” And Dolan just said, “Well really, that isn’t. When you have something different, let me hear from you.” And Dolan really didn’t like Campbell from the beginning. And I never, I never took advantage of the fact that I had helped him… Read More
And not show off-ish, or what do you call it?… Read More
He’s just very a simple person, but very organized, very well organized. Read More
Someone who’s outgoing. An extrovert. Huh? Extrovert. He was more of an introvert, so they hired him, and he was my boss then. He was very friendly to me and I helped him. You know, he’d come ask me, “Tell me about these people,” you know. And I was sort… Read More
And he comes to the aquarium, to my office at the zoo, and he says, you know, “Who should we hire?… Read More
You know all these people, give me a name.” Well, I had made a talk at some Texas Parks thing not a year or two earlier, about zoo signs. And the guy who had organized that was a guy named Charles Campbell, and he was the director of parks in… Read More
And so he says, “Well, call him up.” So I call up Campbell and I’m, you know, first name basis. And he says, “Well, what’s going on?” And I said, “Well, Mr. Hittson got relieved today of his park director duties. And I have one of the chairman of the… Read More
The zoo was a big PR plus for the park department, but there was a lot of jealousy there. We need to, you know, build this recreation thing. We need to put park benches over here and all of that. So there’s competition. And there’s a little jealousy there when… Read More
Well, not by choice. You haven’t asked me about the zoo management systems yet. But zoos started out as, you know, a park in the city, just a few deer, and that sort of thing. As the cities grow bigger, then they put the zoos in the park department and… Read More
But he had a problem of his own with management. They didn’t fire him, but they lowered him. Okay. I had some good friends on the park board. One of them got himself appointed as the search committee to replace Mr. Hittson. Read More
And their sonar is just so highly developed. And we put in, you know, underwater microphones. And if we had a guy at TCU. Oh, and I also taught at TCU, by the way. I was associate, an adjunct professor there, and taught for I think about 12 years, and… Read More
They were great. Now, you mentioned they had a baby after you left. After I left. Read More
Why did you decide to leave?… Read More
And later on, they bred and had a baby, after I’d left, but they had a baby. And I made one huge mistake, one huge mistake. A cosmetic mistake, but it was huge. We kept calling these pink dolphins, ’cause that’s what they call them down there, pink dolphins. Actually,… Read More
Anyway, when we were building, we had a swimming pool builder built that pool. And at the, I mean, remember we did this in 60 days. The builder, we wanted epoxy in there, you know, finished. The guy said, “What color do you want?” And I mean, this is like,… Read More
Well they did that. When the pink dolphins went in this blue tank, they turned gray. Stupid. Well, I wasn’t thinking. But anyway, but they lived, they did. They were wonderful animals. They were an wonderful. You know, they’re very amorous. The pink dolphin is, the river is so, not… Read More