Interview 24641 – Caption Index: 460
I didn’t have anything on reptiles?… Read More
I didn’t have anything on reptiles?… Read More
And Ruther finally, really told Clyde, took him aside. We were having a meeting at Portland. I’d been there about a month, and I wanted to get this thing out. And Clyde just insisted. He’d take something then I’d say, “Okay, that’s good, let me, I’ll rewrite that.” And then… Read More
Why not reptiles?… Read More
Well, Clyde somehow got, took it upon himself to read the manuscript and find all kinds of things that he disagreed with, nothing factual. I had made a comment that among the different, you know, you can have a taxonomic theme with a zoo, a whole zoo, or geographic. You… Read More
And I remember, oh, Ron Ruther! You remember Ruther?… Read More
Ruther was my counterbalance on Clyde Hill. I told Ruther, you know, “I’m not gonna change.” He want Hill, I guess he didn’t have anything else to do. Now, Hill’s a very nice guy. And he and I were very friendly before this. but I just, you know, this is…… Read More
Clyde Hill. Do you remember Clyde?… Read More
Then do it. Do it.” So I took that, I was at Fort Worth. And about that time the shit hit the fan, and I went to Portland. And so I didn’t do anything on that for about six months or about a year, but I finished it. And then… Read More
Did they come to you and say, “Do this?” The AAZPA published a paperback called “Zoos, When, Where, and How?” And it was a committee deal, and it was really pretty bad. I mean, as far as solid information, it really didn’t give you guidance. but they sold a lot… Read More
So whoever it was, Conway was there, said, “Well, Curtis, are you willing to do that?… Read More
But I think we do need a publication.” At that time, Mark, there were new zoos popping up all over the country. There were a lot of new between, in the ’60s, there were a number. If I had the access to the public, to the rosters and all, I… Read More
And a lot of zoo directors that had to decide what’s best for the zoo association, and not your particular park director and park department, and got it through. It was a lot of bloodshed, it was bloody, bloody. That was a, they didn’t wanna turn this loose. When I… Read More
When did that start and why?… Read More
Well, let’s just kind of talk about that. You wrote edited material for the AZA book on Zoo Fundamentals. Read More
Walter was president of the AAZPA, and I was on the board. And here again, zoo directors didn’t, they didn’t wanna rock the boat. You know, a lot of them were in park departments. And their park directors, you know, they didn’t want them breaking away. They needed our money… Read More
Do you remember Walter Stone?… Read More
Walter was pretty good at politics. And we didn’t get a lot of support from the zoo people, but we got it on the officers. With a problem that began, you know, with our own people. Then there was a huge problem with the park people at the head. At… Read More
What was your impression of the AAZPA when it was part of the Parks Association Group?… Read More
Excellent question. Excellent question. Read More
And what was the evolution as you understand it for AAZPA to break away from the parks?… Read More