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Did you hear stories about the panda when that was a big deal, when it came to Brookfield Zoo?… Read More

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Were they married when he was at Brookfield?… Read More

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Right. And then, ultimately, your aunt and he got married. Read More

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Your sister married a gentleman named George Speidel. George Speidel. But he wasn’t a zoo guy at the time she married him. No, he was a guard at this Brookfield Zoo, security or whatever. And then, later, he decided he liked animals. He wanted to be a keeper. Read More

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Okay, and then, he started as a keeper at Brookfield Zoo?… Read More

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No, not really. He didn’t. Probably heard more of my father and whatnot through his sister, Sister Mary, who was the wife of the director of Milwaukee at the time. Read More

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Well, could you give us a little history there?… Read More

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No, any project that was being worked on that I had anything to do with, he would always stop by and have a look at it and see it was going properly. And everything seemed to work out. Read More

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Did he ever tell you stories about your grandfather?… Read More

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Or he kept his distance?… Read More

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And what did the other keepers think of the son of the director?… Read More

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Would your dad stop in to see you often?… Read More

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Well, I was treated very well. I think, maybe, they felt sorry (laughs) for me. Look after me. Read More

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Was he a hard taskmaster?… Read More

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Well, it could be very difficult at times because he expected more outta me than anybody else. Read More

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He could be. Read More

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Well, I wasn’t sure, but it seemed like a good idea at the time. Read More

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Was it tough being the son of the director and working at the zoo?… Read More

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Or easy?… Read More

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Yeah. Read More