I would say bringing them in as collaborators, because you have to direct them. You know, if somebody comes in, and thinks they’re gonna do all this stuff, and do all these things and do, I said, “We can’t do that on this animal. You know, it isn’t gonna work. Read More
We had … At the Baltimore Zoo, there was this black leopard that was having seizures, and so they got it into a crate, and brought it down into the animal holding area, so I’m sitting down there, and here is a crate with an opening about this big, with… Read More
Then I have another great story of … When I was at the National Zoo, we had this orangutan that was born, and orangutans, you know, can get septic from umbilical infections, and this one had a swollen elbow joint, and we had some pus, and you know, it wasn’t… Read More
Well now this is a story that I’m not sure that I can verify, but this is kind of the story that as I remember it, ’cause when I got to National Zoo, Clint Gray and I sat around one morning drinking coffee and just talking, trying to figure out… Read More
Not much, we kind of just, we were flying by what we were doing, and we lost some animals and I’m … What I told my interns and residents and associates that I’ve had, I said, “You know, I made a lot of mistakes, and it’s my job to make… Read More
Were at the time when you were in Baltimore, were were vets, how many vets were in the zoos that were part-time as you were or full-time?… Read More
Now did you have a lot of people that you could lean on then?… Read More
You mentioned Clint Gray for advice on these anesthesias?… Read More
Well, the classic statement is half vast. It was a little bit of emphasis on the pronunciation of that. Well, that was where I first used M99. It was the first time I’d done a lot of primate anesthesia, and that was the first time I used M99 on an… Read More
And so we started looking at, well what in the world are we gonna do, how are we gonna move an elephant?… Read More
They’re trumpeting, they’re running around the place. I hand drawn the syringe, I say, “Here, go in and give the reversal.” Of course he didn’t do it. We had to dart the reversal, and the elephant got up in about 15 minutes, and there was celebration by the other elephants,… Read More
So I was reading the brochure on M99, which I told you was kind of bogus and stuff, but that was all we had. There was a few people with a little bit of experience with M99 in elephants, Clint Gray, my mentor, was one of the first persons I… Read More
And so he did that at Phoenix, and they were calling me, and he said, “My gosh, he’s vomiting, he’s vomiting, and then he’s gonna eat it. So we’ve been washing it all out of the …” I said, “No, wait, wait, that’s part of his physique, you know, part… Read More
They had him laying on his back, and so he was gurgling pretty bad. So we had to turn him over before we even got, and got about a pint of saliva out of him, and then he breathed okay, and put him in an ambulance, and took him to… Read More
Now you talked about anesthetizing Baltimore Jack, was that your, was working at the Baltimore Zoo the first time that you really had vast experience using anesthesia?… Read More
And what was the gorilla’s name, the name?… Read More
And they wouldn’t do that, because it would be competing with commercial. And this is moving the gorilla from Baltimore. To Phoenix. Read More
Baltimore Jack. And so we contacted some commercial people, and the commercial people said, “Well, if you’re gonna put a gorilla in our plane, you’re gonna rent the whole plane”, we’re not gonna be able to put it in the, you know, compartment in the back like we’ve done later… Read More
So then we started, the two zoos talked together, and arranged, you know, some kind of a loan agreement, I don’t know, wasn’t any part of that discussion, and then the next part I was in a discussion, how are we gonna get the gorilla to Phoenix?… Read More
Well, the story I tell when I give my talks about this, and show my slides, we looked at having the Armed Forces give us a plane, or they, you know, the Reserves are gonna fly, they fly everywhere, why couldn’t we just put him in a crate, and move… Read More