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Interview 26791 – Caption Index: 699

It just all dissolved. I don’t know why, didn’t know anything about it. So, you know, it’s not the high-profile animal thing as much as it is awareness and nobody’s pushing this issue. Read More

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But what’s changed, its attitude and knowledge. As I said earlier, we have a whole cadre of curators that don’t even know step one. If you said bring in a white rhino from X country, they wouldn’t know where to begin. So that’s certainly dampened it. And then you have… Read More

Interview 26791 – Caption Index: 695

What do you see as the cause of this change and how has the role of individual dealers and companies changed with respect to the development of zoos?… Read More

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And you know, like I say, they’ve done a great job in helping that population now tick up in a positive direction, which was the whole goal. So we call it a success, in the end. I think only one bull hasn’t reproduced in all those years. I don’t know… Read More

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Well, I don’t think there are many dealers left anymore. They’ve either retired, passed away, and nobody’s filled their shoes. Which is a shame. Now, it’s really a unique niche and you’ve gotta have the financial backing to, you know, you gotta put out money and you gotta wait a… Read More

Interview 26791 – Caption Index: 692

So highly stressful. Our families, we had undercover cops outside our homes, at least for about a week or so afterwards, just to make sure they didn’t do anything silly because they’re capable of all that stuff. And I think more so in Southern California than in Tampa. So a… Read More

Interview 26791 – Caption Index: 693

And now, there’s been a subsequent import that Kansas City, and Omaha, and Dallas did, you know, so kind of set the stage for that. By the way, they were sued as well, but not the same things, ’cause you can’t sue again once the case has been settled. So… Read More

Interview 26791 – Caption Index: 691

And they went even beyond that up and to the point where, since this was overtime at the airport, we never got a bill from the airport for the unloading and all that. And finally, called the airport and said, just send us a bill. And they said on us,… Read More

Interview 26791 – Caption Index: 688

‘Cause I was in one of the pilot cars and we found out later from the FBI, he said well, we have credible information that they were gonna be at these bridges and they were gonna throw a cinder block on a cable over the bridge. So what we’re doing… Read More

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And you know, what the heck is going on?… Read More

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And I said oh, what are you doing here?… Read More

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You know, he said well, he said, we blacked out the space above your motorcade when you came in. And there’s only one person that can do that. And that’s me. And the only other person that gets that privilege is the president. But we didn’t want anything to go… Read More

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And we’d come to a freeway overpass and they would slow down, and then we’d speed up again, and they’d slow down. Read More

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So when the airlines want to, they can, but they got us there. We landed at 1:00 AM at the airport, it’s closed at midnight. They kept it open for us. We had all that done ahead of time. We had the truckers ready. Put them in a hotel room,… Read More

Interview 26791 – Caption Index: 682

And so any inspector who’s vacant and available takes the job, right?… Read More

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We said could you do us a favor and not do that?… Read More

Interview 26791 – Caption Index: 684

Don’t let anybody know that the shipment’s coming in until the very last minute and then have your best person on it. They said we’d be happy to do that. So once wheels were up out of South Africa, we had to fly from Swaziland to Johannesburg, and then out,… Read More

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And that just goes out to a pool of inspectors, right?… Read More

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But then we still had the animal rights community in the US and our intelligence through the FBI and whatever, indicated, okay, they’re gonna be trouble, so you need to get ready for this. So they helped us. We had great intelligence, local police, FBI, to help us ward off… Read More

Interview 26791 – Caption Index: 681

And it’s the first airport they land in the US which was gonna be Tampa. And so that goes out to a pool. Read More

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