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Interview 3367 – Caption Index: 158

Has that been a successful endeavor?… Read More

Interview 3367 – Caption Index: 159

Well, only from the standpoint that yes, it’s been successful, but only because of the fact that we endowed it. We endowed it right up front, because you’re not going to attract enough visitors in a drive-through park to pay for the maintenance. I mean, it’s just not going to… Read More

Interview 3367 – Caption Index: 152

Well, now you’re gonna, you’ll have to go to the, we’ll have to go to see, we’ll have to go to the history which I brought with me. And in the, in the, in the, in the early 90s or in the 90s, you know. So you have a– There’re… Read More

Interview 3367 – Caption Index: 153

Half of– It was given to you?… Read More

Interview 3367 – Caption Index: 154

Yeah. Oh yeah. Half of it is, well, 200 acres is a drive through north American safari park, where elk, bison, you know, white tail deer, mule deer, pronghorn antelope, and, and then a few mammals and small stuff, some wolves and bears. Read More

Interview 3367 – Caption Index: 155

How’d that concept of that drive through come about?… Read More

Interview 3367 – Caption Index: 150

I said, it’s easy. If he defaults, you give it to the zoo and we’ll make a breeding farm out of it. And he said, oh, that sounds good. So we made him put that land up as a, as part of the collateral and the guy defaulted. And now… Read More

Interview 3367 – Caption Index: 151

When did this occur?… Read More

Interview 3367 – Caption Index: 146

You need numbers to actually say you’re, you’re managing, and you’re making decisions because you can’t make a decision with a pair of animals other than do we breed them or don’t we breed them. And the genetics are the genetics. You can’t, you know, so. So I think our… Read More

Interview 3367 – Caption Index: 147

One of our board directors lived on a lake west of Omaha. And the guy who owned the lake was a bit of a gambler. I’ll put that gently as I can. And needed to borrow some money. And he put up the lake as collateral, was wanting to put… Read More

Interview 3367 – Caption Index: 148

And he said, you know, this is also some land that he owns. And I said, well, why don’t you, why don’t you make him put that up as collateral too ’cause with his reputation, he’s probably going to default. Read More

Interview 3367 – Caption Index: 149

And if he defaults and he said, well, what would I do with it?… Read More

Interview 3367 – Caption Index: 142

What vision, when you became director, did you have for the zoo?… Read More

Interview 3367 – Caption Index: 143

What was your vision?… Read More

Interview 3367 – Caption Index: 144

Well, I, no, certainly there were things that I wanted to do and it had to start when I became director, I had to start a good collection. We had a lot of, of a really interesting hoofstock, you know, a big duiker collection, a lot of different species of… Read More

Interview 3367 – Caption Index: 145

And so, you know, one of the things that we developed pretty early on was a philosophy of not simply having a postage stamp display collection, that where you had a pair of animals or a trio, or, you know, or four animals or whatever, but to develop breeding groups… Read More

Interview 3367 – Caption Index: 138

Well, I, no, I would agree with that. It’s not that I’ve got anything against PhDs. I don’t. You know, I mean, along the way I picked up about three of them myself, but you know, honorary. And we’ve got, you know, we’ve got on our, in our, in our… Read More

Interview 3367 – Caption Index: 139

It’s not good for the, you know, for the profession. And it’s certainly not good for the individual animals because you don’t know and you make mistakes. That’s how, that’s how a lot of mistakes are made. I, you know, there are, if you look around late in the history,… Read More

Interview 3367 – Caption Index: 140

But I, I’ve got some very strong opinions that, that everybody ought to start out getting their hands dirty and working and sweating, and get to know the animals and know the animals personally. It’s not that you can’t, you know, get an advanced degree and do that, or, you… Read More

Interview 3367 – Caption Index: 141

And there’s a fair number of zoos where that simply isn’t the case, where there’s veterinarians are only allowed to touch clinically ill or injured animals. And that’s wrong. You become director of the Omaha Zoo. Read More

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