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Interview 3934 – Caption Index: 196

And part of that vision also was this comparative between the plants of the desert and the plants of deserts around the world?… Read More

Interview 3934 – Caption Index: 197

Correct, we started with that from day one and that was pretty accepted from day one by the board. They quickly understood that it did help people understand more about desert plants if they could see that plants might physically look alike from other deserts of the world, we didn’t… Read More

Interview 3934 – Caption Index: 191

Well, we did a certain, yeah, right away. I mean, we did a lot of classes and we did a lot of local field trips. We did out to death valley and down to Baja whale-watching and we started doing trips right away because I really felt that that was… Read More

Interview 3934 – Caption Index: 192

Who were you trying to reach in these trips?… Read More

Interview 3934 – Caption Index: 193

I was just trying to build visitation. So, it wasn’t so much that, I mean, some of the bigger trips you ultimately might have gotten some of the donor types to go along. But for me, it was just creating a reason for people to want to become a member,… Read More

Interview 3934 – Caption Index: 187

You had gotten the Boy Scouts involved with the Living Desert?… Read More

Interview 3934 – Caption Index: 188

What was their job?… Read More

Interview 3934 – Caption Index: 189

Well, they helped me build the first trails. They were the physical labor. They were out with shovels. I staked a trail system out and then they came out and Eagle Scouts came out with a bunch of younger Scouts and cut the trails and pitched the rocks and I… Read More

Interview 3934 – Caption Index: 190

Did you start or think about then doing trips for the Living Desert would be involved with?… Read More

Interview 3934 – Caption Index: 184

Well, I mean, I didn’t have to expand too much to others. I mean, we had a huge focus on botanicals because my founding board and Mr. Boyd really want, so we had a lot of garden focus. So, I was very involved in the botanical garden community in getting… Read More

Interview 3934 – Caption Index: 185

You mentioned plants, how hard was it to acquire exotic plants from different parts of the world?… Read More

Interview 3934 – Caption Index: 186

Well, in California because we were in an agricultural area, there were a lot of legalities. So, a lot of material that we got, I would work with the various botanical gardens in California, where the material was already in the state, but we did and for a lot of… Read More

Interview 3934 – Caption Index: 180

Can you tell us something about the first animal or animals that you acquired that were part of that group and how you were able to bring them in?… Read More

Interview 3934 – Caption Index: 181

Sure. Desert antelope ’cause I always liked antelope. I established a great rapport with the folks down at San Diego and particularly Jimmy Dolan, who at that point was curator of collections in San Diego. And they had just finished building the animal park, the wild animal park, and they… Read More

Interview 3934 – Caption Index: 182

We could help work with this world famous San Diego Zoo and help conserve this little antelope from North Africa called a slender horn gazelle. And we got the space. We could just out near where we have our big horn sheep exhibit, which is our local desert big horn,… Read More

Interview 3934 – Caption Index: 183

Although a few people go, “Why do we have these strange animals that are not from our desert?” And we go, “Well, we’re saving an endangered species.” “Well…” Was your main focus dealing with San Diego and then you started to expand to others?… Read More

Interview 3934 – Caption Index: 177

So, we have a contiguous 1,200 acres there. Read More

Interview 3934 – Caption Index: 178

And it’s all leased?… Read More

Interview 3934 – Caption Index: 179

Well, we own 300 of it and the rest of it’s leased. Long-term, just like San Diego, Suisun lease land, it’s just leased. And you mentioned you had this plan, your plan, and that there were certain animals of the desert you wanted to bring in. Read More

Interview 3934 – Caption Index: 174

Yeah. Still protects it today. Mm hm. Read More

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