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Interview 3934 – Caption Index: 127

Who were some of these other movers and shakers that your remember?… Read More

Interview 3934 – Caption Index: 128

One of them, I still see. She’s 100 years old and she lives in Glencoe. Miriam Hoover of H. Earl Hoover of Hoover Vacuum. His son, Bud is still on our board. H. Earl had a winter home in the desert and he was on my first board and stayed… Read More

Interview 3934 – Caption Index: 123

He was an interesting man. He was from the East Coast, but he’d moved to California for health reasons when he was young. He was a banker, a land developer, and he also was interested in education and he became a regent with the University of California. And he too… Read More

Interview 3934 – Caption Index: 124

And it’s still operating that way, in the same floodplain that our facility was in. So, he was a great believer in educating people, but he just loved it. He had his own reasons. Maybe it just spoke to him the same way it spoke to me. He never studied… Read More

Interview 3934 – Caption Index: 119

There’s no trees in the way. And it just spoke to me immediately, immediately. And you mentioned that, I believe it was Mr. Boyd had purchased this land. Oh, he leased it. Read More

Interview 3934 – Caption Index: 120

He leased it?… Read More

Interview 3934 – Caption Index: 121

Mm hm. Read More

Interview 3934 – Caption Index: 122

Why did he want to create the Living Desert?… Read More

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Yeah. Read More

Interview 3934 – Caption Index: 117

How so?… Read More

Interview 3934 – Caption Index: 118

I actually always felt like once I actually got physically on a desert in the junior year of college, it was like, that’s where I was supposed to be. It just, it was an environment that just spoke to me immediately that there wasn’t any, “Gee, I kinda like it,”… Read More

Interview 3934 – Caption Index: 112

I think, I don’t know if this trip per se didn’t shape the zoo’s responsibility part. That part, I think really just clicked in an instant again, when Gerry Durrell started writing his books about setting up first his little animal collection books, which were all hysterical and funny and… Read More

Interview 3934 – Caption Index: 113

But then when he started getting a little more serious, and I went, yeah, that’s what zoos ought to be doing is besides just having one of everything because I mean, we really did rank our institutions with, “I’ve got one of these, you don’t have one of those.” And… Read More

Interview 3934 – Caption Index: 114

That was the collection plan. And so, zoo director of zoos looked quite different one from the other depending on the director and whether he liked it, and wanted to put it in his collection. And I kept thinking there has to be a better reason, I mean, than just,… Read More

Interview 3934 – Caption Index: 115

We need to take care of the ones that need the help.” Did this trip cement your love for deserts?… Read More

Interview 3934 – Caption Index: 108

He had leased the property in 1968, I believe, but they were looking for somebody, they started looking for somebody to actually work there and put enough money together to hire somebody in 1969. So, I was being interviewed in the end of 1969, and I was hired in March… Read More

Interview 3934 – Caption Index: 109

What were you discovering?… Read More

Interview 3934 – Caption Index: 110

I was discovering that there were millions of ways to do interpretation, and that most of them seem to be useless to me. I would look at zoos and I’d see some terrible exhibits, and I’d go into the park center buildings and they had a lot of panel type… Read More

Interview 3934 – Caption Index: 111

How did this trip shape your views on nature or zoos responsibilities?… Read More

Interview 3934 – Caption Index: 105

At that point it was called the Living Desert Reserve. The local individuals that had started this were very well connected in the little community of what was Palm Springs at the time. They actually went to the Disney family who had a home in Palm Springs, got permission from… Read More

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