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Interview 4487 – Caption Index: 203

And then you go back through your brainstem and you go, okay, what have I done?… Read More

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I think our relationship, we always were good friends, we were colleagues. I took his daughters to Africa one year, we babysat for his house and his dog when they were away on trips, we had that kind of a relationship, but we were not truly friends in the typical… Read More

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I think when, I believe that when I interviewed for the position, he had a list of things that, he had a list of things for me, that for me, an individual, that he said, these are the things that I’d like us, which means you, to accomplish. And these… Read More

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Was your relationship with Dr. Fisher the same?… Read More

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That is, his management style continued to be what it was, was he, was there a different relation, kind of laugh. Read More

Interview 4487 – Caption Index: 199

So was there a different relationship because now you were in a new position, so it changed a bit or stayed the same?… Read More

Interview 4487 – Caption Index: 193

So you had ideas or you had goals that you felt I can now further them and what were they?… Read More

Interview 4487 – Caption Index: 194

Not so much stated goals or list of goals or something put on paper, but rather philosophical goals, attitudinal goals about how to treat the collection, how personnel would treat it, how people needed to be treated as individuals, how we could make the zoo a more inviting place to… Read More

Interview 4487 – Caption Index: 195

Did he understand what you were going to want to try and do, or was he telling you what he needed for you to do in this new position?… Read More

Interview 4487 – Caption Index: 189

Tell us about, you know, how that transpired and why did you decide to apply for the position and were you just the choice automatically, or were there other people within the zoo that wanted it or internationally that wanted it?… Read More

Interview 4487 – Caption Index: 190

When the then assistant director went on to become director at another zoo, the position opened. And I don’t, as I look back on it, I really don’t know how it all happened. I don’t think I was the heir apparent. I think there were certainly would be interest from… Read More

Interview 4487 – Caption Index: 191

I’m glad I had the opportunity, but it did, as I alluded to earlier, it brought me one step further removed from the things that were most important to me, at least in the early part of my career. And I had to make that conscious decision about would this… Read More

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What were you thinking though, when you said I could improve?… Read More

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Can you kind of tell me what you meant by that?… Read More

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It was a golden age, at like in part, because we had the degree of freedom that we had. It was a golden age at Lincoln Park because there was, there essentially was no animal anywhere in the world that we couldn’t acquire if we could make the contacts. It… Read More

Interview 4487 – Caption Index: 188

And again, I go back to the, your word is your bond. If they said they were going to do something for you, they did it for you. If they said I have this and it should go to you, and this is what his condition is, that’s, those were… Read More

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Were there situations that you can tell us about that you might’ve learned something new on the job that you did not know before?… Read More

Interview 4487 – Caption Index: 184

Well- I learned from the first weekend that I was on with the camel, that you have to be very quick to grab a baby camel because adult camels can kick both rear legs off the ground at the same time, and you have to be away from them. I… Read More

Interview 4487 – Caption Index: 185

You had just raked it so that you looked like it was clean. There were all kinds of little tricks that I learned from my comrades. And you had indicated and said at one time that you felt you worked at Lincoln Park Zoo, move on word, but that you… Read More

Interview 4487 – Caption Index: 180

Well, it came from the top down, but it came from the top down largely because there was pressure by the National Association of Zoos and Aquariums to formalize policies and procedures within zoos and aquariums and wildlife parks. And so the edict would come from AAZPA, now AZA, and… Read More

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