And I mean, you had to be somewhat delicate in working with her. I mean, she wanted to do something, we tried to get some changes in the panda operation and it took a lot of work to get some of the, keeping pandas together longer or not longer as… Read More
Actually the facility in Frankfurt does. Bronx, in fact, I mean, it wasn’t their nocturnal facility, but I was really impressed with how they did the Bird House and just how well they did the naturalistic exhibits in the Bird House. And I retained that when we were looking at… Read More
I got a lot of keepers together and they volunteered to do it on their spare time or on their own time. They’d come in and with the exception of the really huge exhibits in the back, all those exhibits would build in house by keeper staff. And I did… Read More
Can you tell us a little about these people?… Read More
What made them special and how did they contribute?… Read More
And in the Small Mammal House were you able to incorporate philosophies that you’ve seen European zoos?… Read More
Absolutely. Read More
Some of the big ones that come to your mind?… Read More
And then bring it back. And Ted did involve a lot of us and he involved me a lot in a number of projects. And in fact, the assistant director or the director for maintenance and facilities, I worked really closely with him. And he had me involved with also… Read More
And I know on the gibbon exhibit, I told them I wanted the gibbon exhibit, it was built on it on the level area, right off Olmsted Walk, but there was a huge embankment behind it I said, “I want that exhibit to extend down the embankment so that you… Read More
What was your involvement in the Beaver Valley of that project?… Read More
The original. And the renovation. The original renovation, I worked with the architects. I work with really closely with the people that did all the rock work, but that was kind of a joint project. I mean, I didn’t have total say over it, but I certainly was involved in… Read More
What were the species?… Read More
What did you get these things?… Read More
What things where you learning that you were able to apply to the zoo when you got back?… Read More
Well, in Munich, they had free ranging tamarins, which we’d never tried. They also had basically free ranging Gibbons, it was the Frankfurt zoo, their Small Mammal Facility, which was really great. Read More
I mean, we just were able to pick up new ideas for new exhibits and what it entailed and what the costs were, who was manning it?… Read More
And that continued all the way through until Ted Reed left. And then things started to change dramatically. And I’ll get into that, I guess, later. But yeah, CRC was a real coup and it’s served us very well. And Steve’s done a really incredible job up there, especially with… Read More
Now, you’ve mentioned that ’74 or you started or you toured European zoos, how did that come about?… Read More
You were just told to go?… Read More