(laughs) And considering what you know about Ulie Seale today, ISIS, CBSG all the things he’s developed. That’s kind of an interesting start. That’s how Ulie got started. And then of course, in addition to presenting normal values on 12 species in Houston, Ulie presented an outline for a computer… Read More
You know, first time we’ve got normals. And he said, because it’s not tied to a census, to a database, the census, you can’t identify individual animals. We don’t know for sure how old these animals were, what sex they were only on some of them. It is not tied… Read More
We went to the board and I was on the board of the, of the zoo vets then. And so we took it to the board of the zoo vets and they immediately anted up and wrote us a check. And then, then we got Don Farst, director of veterinary,… Read More
And so, you know, basically you’re kind of right on the spot. I invited him to Omaha, two weeks later, he was in Omaha. We bled every single animal in the Omaha Zoo. Well, almost, virtually every animal in the whole zoo. We bled everything. And over the next couple… Read More
We collected 5,000 blood samples, which he then analyzed. And then in, at the Houston meeting two years later, we had enough statistical normal, normal data that Ulie presented statistical norms on 12 species of animals. We had never in our lives had that. And that was kind of the… Read More
The interesting thing was is that after Ulie, after Ulie left, somebody said, who is that guy?… Read More
And also on a, on a bear project and on some, and on some white tail deer projects. And so he came to the meeting and gave a couple of papers, one on pineal glands in wolves, which is, you know, kind of a primitive gland that probably doesn’t really… Read More
I mean, you could do, you know, you could do lab work, you could send, you could send in your blood. You could get a, you know, an SMA8 or a SMA 12 or a whatever you get. And then you look at it and you’ve got numbers, but you… Read More
And he said, you know, it looks to me like what you guys need is a, is a good physiological norms database. You know, at which time Clint Gray said, you know, don’t you blankity, blank, blank, blank think we know that. (laughs) Clint was, he failed tact and could… Read More
How did they affect zoos?… Read More
Well, I think, you know, I think, you know, of all of the, you know, of all the people that I’ve had contact with and we’ve worked with over the years, and that I’ve known in zoos, Ulie probably had the most profound positive impact on not only on Omaha… Read More
You know, we didn’t have a knowledge base of, of what was normal and not normal in exotic animals. And frequently when you pulled a blood sample, it was the very first time for you or maybe the very first time anybody ever had pulled blood on that particular species. Read More
As somebody who made a difference. You know, I think as somebody who made a difference, who wasn’t afraid to take chances and take risks. I think one of the, one of the really great things about working in Omaha is that we’ve always been able to operate, not like… Read More
What was it like working with the Dr. Ulie Seale?… Read More
And can you tell us a little bit about how he got into the profession, so to speak, what his impact was, and what kind of projects did you work on?… Read More
So what do you know about this profession you’ve devoted so many years of your life to?… Read More
Well, it’s never dull. (laughs) Yeah, yeah. It’s, it’s kind of one of the few professions where you can learn something new every day and almost every day, you know, have it brought home to you, just how dumb you are and how much you don’t know. So yeah, you… Read More
How would you like to be remembered?… Read More
But what have you learned about zoos and how people feel about animals?… Read More
Well, I think, (mumbles) animals are I think the universal common denominator, right. I don’t, no matter where you, where you’re at, whether you’re talking about, you know, North America, South America, Asia, Europe, whatever, people like animals. They’re fascinated by animal. You’re fascinated by the things that you know… Read More