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Interview 3934 – Caption Index: 4

As I got older, oddly enough, I always loved the antelope. I could walk, maybe because they were kinda built like horses and I liked horses, but I used to walk the antelope string a lot, and particularly when I could go to the zoo on my own. Read More

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Now, tell us a little about, maybe the family life, what’d your father do for a living?… Read More

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Well, my name is Karen Sausman. I was born in Chicago, Illinois, and on November 26th, 1945. Read More

Interview 3934 – Caption Index: 1

What are some of your earliest memories of zoos?… Read More

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My very earliest memories is of Lincoln Park Zoo, and of the rookery as we were not a very wealthy family. Indeed, we were quite a poor family, and so the zoo was free and we lived on the Near North Side. So, I think I was predisposed to wind… Read More

Interview 3367 – Caption Index: 562

The baby’s head pops out and you take a bottle out and say to a stewardess, you know, can you warm this bottle for me?… Read More

Interview 3367 – Caption Index: 563

And from that time on, nobody in the whole airplane could get a drink because you had all the stewardesses up there. And it worked every time. And never had, never had a single kickback, even though we never declared, we never declared a baby, but I don’t think you… Read More

Interview 3367 – Caption Index: 559

He said, are you sure those are strong enough for gorillas?… Read More

Interview 3367 – Caption Index: 560

Now I looked him straight in the eye and said, every gorilla I’ve ever hauled has been in a crate just like that. I just didn’t tell him it was the first time in my whole life I’d ever transported a gorilla. Didn’t lie. We’d put the tarp back down,… Read More

Interview 3367 – Caption Index: 561

Buy a first class ticket so you were setting up in first class. Wait til the planes off the ground, unzip the bag. Read More

Interview 3367 – Caption Index: 556

And I had managed, you know, didn’t get thrown in jail for it, to get them to, ASPCA outside of Kennedy. And then the next morning, you know, cause they came in at like 3:30 in the morning. The next morning why, APHIS came over and you know, there was… Read More

Interview 3367 – Caption Index: 557

I mean, off of the bottom, cleaned up the bottom, hosed out the, hosed the grill off, hosed the crate off, you know, got everything all cleaned up, walk the up, picked it up, walk the gorilla back onto the bottom, turned it back over and screwed the bottoms down. Read More

Interview 3367 – Caption Index: 558

And the pilot came on board and we had them already loaded. And the pilot came on board and said, I want to see them. I said, well, they’re all strapped down. They’re all, you know, they’re all quiet, they’re all asleep. And he said, no, I want to see… Read More

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Any other, any other names for those?… Read More

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And if I’d have just shut up and stuck to the scientific name, we’d have been all right. But foolishly, I said, well, I know some people call them Barbary sheep. Well, that was a dumb thing to do because they just had a big scabies scare in Canada with… Read More

Interview 3367 – Caption Index: 554

And then we had to pull him out of the barrel, gripping with sheep dip, put him back in his crate, jump in the thing, because if we didn’t get to the border before they closed, then we’d have to spend the weekend in Buffalo. And so they, we got… Read More

Interview 3367 – Caption Index: 555

I mean, at some, some difficulty getting them to ASPCA to clear them. This crazy Frenchman that had shipped them into the huts had put them in two by two, you know, tropical hardwood crates. They were two by two frames with storm screen, heavy storm screen over them, a… Read More

Interview 3367 – Caption Index: 550

You know, it was kind of not too far out of the way, and we’re going to go through Buffalo, New York. So we picked up the aoudad at midnight in the parking lot of the Cleveland Zoo. Went on up. I’d never been to Buffalo. I’d never met Clayton. Read More

Interview 3367 – Caption Index: 551

And I was doing pretty good until some Canadian border guy said, aoudad, I had scientific name. I don’t know what that is. Read More

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Because they had people showing up in Riverbank, South Carolina with Royal Zoo memberships, getting in reciprocal, getting in free. And there were actually two websites, one of which the town knew about that was selling Royal Zoo memberships and another, which the town didn’t know about, that looked the… Read More

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