Well, I went down to the state historical society, being the state capital, it’s right here in town. Went through all their material, including researching the newspapers. They had this great newspaper collection, went through all the newspapers. And Gage Park was established in 1901, I believe, Guilford Gage had… Read More
And that was a pair of swans. And there were a few other miscellaneous things. But it was not until 1933 that there was a specific facility built, especially for exotic animals, and they built a monkey island in 1933. So in my wisdom, I said, well, we may have… Read More
And what do we do with it?… Read More
Well, take it to Gage Park and they put a fence up. But I decided it wasn’t a zoo until somebody built a facility just for exotic animals. That happened in WPA in 1933. Read More
Oh, that’s, how did the Topeka Zoo develop?… Read More
It developed topsy turvy, like so many zoos, small municipal zoos. But here’s the funny thing. When I started in 1963 as zoo director, I wanted the zoo, not just community-wise, locally, we needed to so many things, we’ve talked about that, but I wanted the zoo to become part… Read More
And then AZA asked me, put me on a committee and that’s, you may recall the director, we used to have five regions and there were five regional con. There was one national and five, I’m the guy who came up with the regions. (Gary laughing) And we had the… Read More
One of the things it says in the International Zoo Yearbook questionnaire is, what year was your zoo established?… Read More
If I could go back in time, is there anything I would’ve done differently?… Read More
What a question. I happen to have my book here and the very last page, page 512, there’s an afterward. It says, if I had to do it all over again, I would. (Gary laughing) (book thuds) We’ve talked about the Topeka Zoo. Read More
Can you give us kind of a history of the zoo?… Read More
How did it develop?… Read More
That was even better than meeting the guys, (laughing) quite honestly. But so that was my first time. So then 50 years later, which would be 2008, I go to Oklahoma City for AZA meeting there. And first of all, of course, a lot of colleagues have passed on or… Read More
But society has changed. The world has changed. That’s the way things are. So I’m not saying it’s good or different. I’m glad, I tell ya. I am so fortunate and so pleased that I was able to be in the zoo profession when I was. Everybody probably thinks this,… Read More
And now it’s just so different. Read More
I’m happy to be retired. (chuckles) If you could go back in time, is there anything, speaking of your directorship, and your tenure, is there anything you would have done differently?… Read More
(Gary laughing) AZA, how would you, what would your generalization be about how AZA today compares with the AAZPA of when you started?… Read More
Well, this is just a personal opinion now, and that doesn’t mean that it’s what I’m saying is that things are better or worse, but as a comparison. And this is a somewhat distant view because I haven’t been to a lot of the conferences with, but I hearken back… Read More
When was that?… Read More
That was in 2008 or 9. That was 50 years from the, 50 years after the first AZA I attended. The first AZA, which was AAZPA that I attended, was when I had been a keeper at Kansas City Zoo and Mr. Cully, I forgot to tell this about Mr. Read More