I put a team together from my shop. Luckily they were good strong Nebraska country boys and, and Ulie put a team together from graduate students and his techs from Minnesota. And we went down and in four days we immobilized, bled, TB tested, took blood samples from, hair samples,… Read More
And so Bob Lacy was director of CBSG for about eight years now, Andy Byers is. I think we’ve got about 600 zoos that are supporting CBSG. But CBSG has worked in all kinds of things, like for the Florida panther, New Guinea, Papua New Guinea tree kangaroos, all over,… Read More
And he could do that with a, you know, he could do that with a group in Indonesia where you had standing generals that on the one hand that were head of a department and down clear down to the line to the, you know, to the, to the ranger… Read More
And didn’t you you have to work with him on a project in New Orleans where you did a lot of tranquilizations?… Read More
So, and so I was, you know, involved with part of that. Then after Houston became the chairman of the committee and the committee was Ulie Seale and myself, we spent a couple of years of not telling anybody what we were doing. And then ultimately brought it to the… Read More
San Diego had spent quite a little bit of money doing, trying to do the same thing. The thing that made it work though, is that it, ISIS was, did not belong to any one organization. You know, if ISIS, or when ISIS was going to be a British, you… Read More
And once they got to know Ulie, and Ulie went and did a lot of work in reproduction in a lot of areas, in a lot of zoos, Ulie had people’s skills such that, you know, that that people would say, okay, I don’t really understand exactly what it is… Read More
I there’s, there’s nobody, there’s nobody, in my opinion, in the zoo world, living or dead, that had even remotely the same impact on the way we do, you know, zoo business and the way we do conservation. And it’s not just the zoo world. I mean, you know, he’s… Read More
Don nodded his head yes. I knew Gladys from about, had known Gladys for about five years or so at that time. And she gave us, she wrote us a check for $10,000 on the spot. And that’s how ISIS got started. Read More
What does ISIS stand for?… Read More
Well, international species inventory system. ISIS is now in, I think, 900, maybe it’s closer now to a thousand zoos around the world. It’s an international database that also has gone well beyond just a census. You know, we’ve got all kinds of computerized data management and censusing and, and… Read More
(laughs) And Clint Gray said, he said, first, you know, do you think he’s for real, and second, who the hell invited him?… Read More
(laughs) And considering what you know about Ulie Seale today, ISIS, CBSG all the things he’s developed. That’s kind of an interesting start. That’s how Ulie got started. And then of course, in addition to presenting normal values on 12 species in Houston, Ulie presented an outline for a computer… Read More
You know, first time we’ve got normals. And he said, because it’s not tied to a census, to a database, the census, you can’t identify individual animals. We don’t know for sure how old these animals were, what sex they were only on some of them. It is not tied… Read More
We went to the board and I was on the board of the, of the zoo vets then. And so we took it to the board of the zoo vets and they immediately anted up and wrote us a check. And then, then we got Don Farst, director of veterinary,… Read More
And so, you know, basically you’re kind of right on the spot. I invited him to Omaha, two weeks later, he was in Omaha. We bled every single animal in the Omaha Zoo. Well, almost, virtually every animal in the whole zoo. We bled everything. And over the next couple… Read More
We collected 5,000 blood samples, which he then analyzed. And then in, at the Houston meeting two years later, we had enough statistical normal, normal data that Ulie presented statistical norms on 12 species of animals. We had never in our lives had that. And that was kind of the… Read More
The interesting thing was is that after Ulie, after Ulie left, somebody said, who is that guy?… Read More
And also on a, on a bear project and on some, and on some white tail deer projects. And so he came to the meeting and gave a couple of papers, one on pineal glands in wolves, which is, you know, kind of a primitive gland that probably doesn’t really… Read More
I mean, you could do, you know, you could do lab work, you could send, you could send in your blood. You could get a, you know, an SMA8 or a SMA 12 or a whatever you get. And then you look at it and you’ve got numbers, but you… Read More