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Interview 8364 – Caption Index: 250

The first time I went to the house to see it before I brought Phyllis and the kids down to San Antonio, I walked in and the whole dining room was a bird cage. He had built a bird cage in the middle of the house. And I thought, Phyllis… Read More

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And I found that I got so much done that I would not have done if it were an eight to five kind of job. I would go out after I’d close up my office and just walk through the zoo. And because the zoo stayed open much later, I… Read More

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So just a quick question, going back to the house, part of the job was they said, we’re gonna give you a place to stay with your family. Read More

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Did you know him?… Read More

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had you had conversations with him or?… Read More

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I knew Fred Stark because I’ve visited with him at conferences. He knew I was also bird curator in Columbus, and we had corresponded in those days. Fred was not a person who corresponded much with his friends, but he did. Everybody knew Fred when it came to thinking in… Read More

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So you got to give them your vision and they bought into it?… Read More

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Yes, exactly right. They bought into what I was saying the zoo needed and that’s the way I worked with them for almost all of the years I was there. Read More

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Had you had conversations, now, when you came there, Fred Stark had already passed away, correct?… Read More

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Yes. Fred had passed away. Read More

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No, I didn’t have any board member that came in and said, this is the way we want it. Read More

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And that’s the, how many people can say that?… Read More

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Not very many, I don’t think. And it was a wonderful way for me to start, because I knew what I had to do. And of course they agreed with that and I was very pleased that they did. Read More

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My relationship with the chairman and the executive committee was always very good. In the early days, the chairman of the committee before I arrived, was very demanding. He would send out telegrams to people when he wanted them to come to a meeting. And the meeting was always about… Read More

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They’d walk through the zoo in the evening. And I highlighted all the exhibits and this was all black tie and very, very formal. We hired nationally known bands and things of that sort. And it still continues even today. Read More

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When you first started, did the board give you any charges?… Read More

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Like here’s what we would like you to do?… Read More

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Can you imagine having 84 bosses?… Read More

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But of that 84, 15 member executive committee that really operates the zoo with the staff, but they are very free and easy to get along with, always has been. They liked what I was proposing and what I was doing. And that continued, believe it or not for all… Read More

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What was your relationship with the chairman?… Read More

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