I hope that someday that I hear that in some meeting of AZA. I’d love to hear them finally say what I’ve been saying for years, that we need them and we ought to be using them. But that use means sharing and sharing is the only way it’ll ever… Read More
Is that part of this philosophy of wanting to keep the Texas ranchers at bay or not go to bed with them?… Read More
AZA members, ranching society members. Read More
How does that auction, do you think that’s a barrier between AZA and ranchers working together?… Read More
I think auctions has been a barrier between AZA and ranchers because auctions are something in between. They’re just a place where you buy animals and they don’t care what the horns look like. They might be one going this way and one that way, but they’ll have it in… Read More
They’re just not, no one wants those in great numbers in the zoo. Although they could be quite beautiful, you can’t afford that space for just blackbuck. I never thought I’d ever say that. Such a beautiful animal, that just blackbuck isn’t what I’d want in a zoo. Read More
It would take a lot more money, for example, to build what it would take to keep in elephants and rhinos, but it could be done. Read More
Can you talk a little about, because again, the ranchers and their need to have species and to propagate them, are wildlife auctions necessary for ranchers keeping the exotics?… Read More
Can auctions exist that only admit qualified people?… Read More
So why put the captive born ones back in that situation?… Read More
So what is the next step?… Read More
Where else can we go?… Read More
Well, it never came to that. I never had to give up my membership in our finest zoo organization in the world, I think, AZA, but it came awfully close. I still think that there’s time for the next generation of ranchers to work with zoo, but it’s gonna take… Read More
And again, do you think it’s that same philosophy of why AZA and zoos have not used this vast amount of space to propagate the species of rhinoceros?… Read More
Well, rhinos take a lot more than just fencing. You have to put a lot of pretty stout barriers in their way to keep them from getting out. There are ranches I think who still have a white rhino and why, because we we’ve got too many of them for… Read More
Now, it seems that in many respects, you have been kind of a liaison between the ranchers and AZA. An unofficial role if it were, but you seem to have positive relationship with them. What would you recommend to ranchers to maintain their interest in participation in these large scale… Read More
Who should be reaching out to who?… Read More
Well, first of all, I think the zoo’s better start thinking about where they’re gonna put their surplus and reach out to some of the ranchers, but they have to be willing as zoos to share and share alike in what as a result of that effort that the ranchers… Read More
I don’t wanna stop breeding them. Read More
So what could I do?… Read More