I said, no, you can’t do that. You’d have everybody in the aquarium in there. So, I think that’s my biggest headache was… And then the next biggest headache, which didn’t last as long, was the animal activists. I mean, that really was a big, big pain for me, but… Read More
And that was a big headache. Fundraising, I think, was a big headache. Originally getting your board to accept the fact that if you want to improve and continue to be first-class as an institution, you’ve got to go out and raise funds. You just can’t sit there and vegetate… Read More
You’ve got the tropical dolphins. So we hammered it out, and we made that gentleman’s agreement if you will about it. But there’s no reason that there should be any animosity between the institutions. I mean, I don’t think there is between Lincoln Park Zoo and Brookfield Zoo. You have… Read More
Did you compete for funds from individuals?… Read More
No, you know that’s funny thing, and I’ve thought about that for years, that Lincoln Park has its cadre of supporters. Brookfield Zoo has its cadre of supporters, and Shedd Aquarium has theirs, and I saw very little left, any overlap. Any time there was a ball or a fundraising… Read More
As director, what were the frustrating times?… Read More
What was your relationship?… Read More
Well, I think we had a good relationship with both institutions. There were a couple of maybe a little touchy things that we solved. Brookfield Zoo had put in here’s back their dolphin exhibit, Seven Seas Panorama, and that was torn down and the new dolphin thing. And when we… Read More
He certainly taught me a lot about fundraising, development. And I think he still works part-time, giving advice to the San Diego Zoo, Murray Newman, should I say I stole some ideas from him, his outdoor exhibit for killer whales. Our architects one up there to look at the outdoor… Read More
Was there a communication between the two of you or the groups?… Read More
Are you jealous of one another?… Read More
It probably cleaner than a hospital. And so well designed and laid out. He did a wonderful job there. And your time as director, you’ve met so many people, some I presume famous people. Read More
Did anybody make a big impression on you and did they ever have an impact on the Shedd?… Read More
Well, they certainly had a big impact on me. I might say proud to have these people be my friends and my colleagues. I think Charlie Schroeder, even though he’s just a Zoo man. I thought Charlie was director of the San Diego Zoo. He was just a wonderful, wonderful… Read More
I think we learn a lot from these people, but it’s hard to go back and say, Joe taught me this, Mike taught me this. I think people like Dr. Ross Nigrelli from the New York Aquarium, Murray Newman from the Vancouver Aquarium, a number of people from SeaWorld ’cause… Read More
Did you develop relationships with Japanese and Asian aquariums or European aquariums?… Read More
I did develop relationships with European aquariums. And with Asians, particularly (indistinct) from Nagoya. And I worked with him very closely in designing his new aquarium, both the phase one, as they call it, and then phase two. I think I was pretty much responsible for developing and designing his… Read More
What professionals in aquariums or otherwise did you respect and learn from, and who had the most influence on you?… Read More
What other aquarium directors had influence on me?… Read More
And then you’re gonna ask me, why did they have an influence on me?… Read More