They must manage their animals very carefully. They cannot become facilities that are sustaining nothing but animals that are beyond their breeding age. That’s a tough problem to discuss with people who are concerned with humane issues, and every zoo person is so concerned. But again, looking at my experience, talking with, individuals who are anti zoo, I’ve never found very difficult. If we have a chance to talk, we can usually come to some sort of understanding, involvement, education, insisting that people have some sort of scientific responsibility. This is the real problem. Unfortunately, the vast majority of north Americans have very, very little, they’re scientifically illiterate. It’s a tragedy.