My personal experience in dealing with animal rights, people who are anti zoo, and of course not all animal rights people are anti zoo, but my experience has been that one must attempt to involve them, to educate them. We’re dealing with some very, very difficult questions. If, for example, you’re sustaining a collection of frogs and you have too many males or too many females, or you have animals that are not entirely in good condition, it is appropriate for you to call them. Who wishes to call a gorilla or an elephant. These are enormous problems. In nature, because we have limited space, many parks are now in the embarrassing position of having to call some of the animals they’re are sustaining. All the zoo spaces for animals in the entire world would fit within the borough of Brooklyn. This means that their spaces are very limited.