The New York Zoological Society now the Wildlife Conservation Society is the operating organization. Thus, I was an employee of the society. And the president that I have referred to Fairfield Osborn and myself eventually became presidents of the society. They were not separate in any way, which is the case in some zoos. In some zoos there is a supportive society, which has its own officers and the employees are employees of another entity or even the city. That is not the case in New York. And all of the employees are employees of the society, and the society operates like any not-for-profit society and elects officers and trustees and so on and so forth.