Getting things across that not everybody was in favor of, but which we felt were essential for the growth of the profession. Gary Clarke was an outstanding director and he was an outstanding president for the AZA. And in fact, Gary backed me up when I was working on the accreditation plan, and without his backup, there wouldn’t have been a zoo accreditation plan. He was very helpful. Belle Benchley I knew Belle Benchley as a kid and hen I was 16, I had the chance to go to the San Diego Zoo. I took a bus there from Los Angeles where I had an uncle and Belle Benchley took this 16-year-old all around the zoo, I don’t know why, but she was terribly, terribly nice. And she introduced me to Si Perkins, the reptile curator and to other people at the zoo. In fact, all of my reception at the San Diego Zoo, every time I’ve gone, there has been marvelous, I feel like I’m going home.