of course, there’s also William Beebe, I mean, William Bridges, the famous editor of zoo’s magazine, Animal Kingdom, who wrote the story of the Bronx Zoo and many other books as well, and was a tremendous asset and there was nobody like him and isn’t to this day in the zoo field. There was Christopher Coates at the aquarium, the author of a wonderful book on tropical tropical fishes and he was famous for his studies of electric eels and the first major exhibits of electric eels that lighted bowls and so on and so forth. It was a wonderful group of people. And to get them all in one room gave you a cacophony of intelligent information I don’t think you could find any place else. We were talking about animal collectors, a name comes up of Charles Cordier. Charles and Emmy Cordier were an extraordinary animal collecting team. They specialized in birds, but they also collected okapis. I knew Charles and Emmy very well, but they were not working for the New York Zoological Society when I came here.
