Very different Cheyenne Mountain Zoo is very different from St. Louis and a very interesting zoo, it’s built on the side of Cheyenne Mountain and it’s a beautiful environment. And they had certain opportunities there that I suppose other zoos wouldn’t have, and they had various limitations because of the vertical nature of the site, but it was quite fascinating and I learned a great deal there and became interested in the wildlife. I would sneak up in the Pikes Peak area in the mountains to photograph dippers and the streams, and wonderful little birds, wren size birds dipping, jumping in the water and eating aquatic insects. And with the other local wildlife, everything from golden eagles to black bears, and it generally improved my education and my insights about what could be done with zoos and what could not. There are a lot of limitations in Cheyenne Mountain and yet they can do some wonderful things and they have. You had talked about New York, when and why did you decide, you kind of implied that because of the people, but to work for the New York Zoo Society.
