Every time I could get, when I was at the zoo, every time I could get time, I was out looking at wildlife. It was no mystery to me that wildlife was disappearing at the areas where I started looking at wildlife, had been developed. One of my favorite snake observation areas was turned into a major residential area, and a wonderful swamp where four species of frogs were calling and whose voices I was and photographing them and preparing them for a lecture, disappeared, it was drained and turned into a shopping center. At the same time I was reading and listening. The general curator, Moody Lens was expressing his concerns. Even the media began to show an increasing sensitivity to the change in the world. It was about that time, I suppose, that a Disney began its first series of wildlife films. And they became very popular.