Primarily in conservation I’ve been very interested and in fact started the wildlife conservation society’s program in Patagonia, the Patagonian Coastal Zone Management Plan. And the concept was to take an entire ecosystem, it’s vast, almost 3000 mile long coastline of Southern Argentina with its extraordinary colonies of sea lions, elephant seals, penguins, four species of cormorants, terns, gulls, its an absolutely wonderful area. Herds of guanacos on the shore, Darwin’s rheas. And it has been an enormously rewarding success. When we began the program, there was no conservation constituency on the coast of Patagonia or anywhere in Patagonia. There were a few, if any, there were actually no conservation biologists in Patagonia. There were few elephants seals to compare them with conservation biologist. In fact, when I counted the only elephant seal colony on the coast of Patagogia, which happens to be on Peninsula Valdes, there were only a bit over 2,000.