He’s the guy who got all the collecting aquarium put together and made sure that it was in good shape for the next year. And he was collector when I got there, and I worked with him getting all his collecting equipment ready. I think that was my first trip to Key West that I described. And then when I left to go in the army, I came back, and Lewis had come up through the ranks, and he’d been made a curator, and I was assistant curator. And then later on, when Chute was getting close to retirement, then they appointed me as assistant director. I felt sort of unnecessary having over Lewis’ spot there, but he took it very nicely. Congratulated me and so forth. So that’s how I made the jump to assistant director and then the director’s chair.