And they had hired Lohan’s Company, it was at those days called FCL, Fujikawa, Conterato, Lohan as architects. And they would go ahead a little bit, and then the board would say, “Wait a minute. “We don’t know if we can raise this money or not.” And then they’d tell them, “Go ahead with your design.” “Wait a minute. We don’t know.” Well, the architects were getting somewhat and I can’t blame them, irritated and frustrated. So I had a little conference with myself, and I said, the board needs a push on this, and I’m gonna go out to people, and I didn’t know who the people were, but I was gonna go up to somebody and just ask them, and tell them, I’m not here to ask you for money. I want your opinion. And I talked to a couple of people and I had a friend who worked for this design-build company, A. Epstein International.
