And then eventually we brought in a business manager and he took a big load off of us. I talked to Lee Webber, who was director of the Field Museum. And he had been doing the same thing at the museum. He didn’t have a business manager. And he said, “Boy, life is a lot different around here, “having a business.” Institutions were living in the dark ages in those days. And so one by one, those things came to fruition, having the education department, and we were getting members on the board who could understand that the aquarium was still partially back in the dark ages. And you got support from those people.
