They were very excited. The people, of course the newspapers and television were very excited about this because it was the first. In fact, Dave Garroway, some people may remember Dave as the premier person on television for news and early morning in those days. And he arranged to come and see the baby and the people in Columbus just, they thought this was fabulous. So they came out even in December to see this baby gorilla. Well, Earl then had another dilemma.