Well, I think we all look at, nowadays especially, not so much in years and years ago, we didn’t look at education as much as we did experience. I was always taught that and I was taught by the old time keepers, “You ain’t got enough experience.” That’s what they’d say to me when I wanted to be working with the animals and I’d say, “Well, I need it, so let me help.” And that’s how I got to work with some of the, what I thought were the best of the keepers in any zoo that I was in.