I did bring on some people, but we didn’t really have a major group of curators. Neither did most zoos in those days. We had a lot of senior keepers, keepers who’d been around a long time and learned their particular expertise quite well. But I did bring on for example, a visitor services person to help me so that I can get out into the community more. I was always one to wanna be out to see what people wanted in the way of a zoo in the community, and to talk with those people through service clubs and so on, the organizations within the city to get them to think zoo. And that’s worked out for me for a long while.