Yes, the popularity was there. The visitors were coming in and things had to change pretty quickly because we were getting large numbers in attendance and that continued. And of course, that’s exactly what we needed and wanted for the zoo start expanding. And that’s when we began to do our master planning in earnest, based on what Earl Davis’s thoughts were. And it allowed me then to begin to get the experience of planning for this new zoo. And in those days there was only one group as I remember of the zoo planners in the country. And that was Bob Everly, the McFadzean, Everly firm, and Bob was hired by me and his people came and we began the master planning for the Columbus Zoo.