It’s a black background and you’re sitting at a table. Well, I had some apples cut up and these were sitting right in front of me. The first thing I knew, Charlie Rose was extremely enthralled. He’d never seen anything like it. So he was giving these pieces of apple to the chimpanzee and to the orangutan. And his were big as apples. He didn’t ask me one question in 20 minutes, he was so enthralled with what he was seeing. He was speechless.