So I think that was a time when I was working some of that out. I pretty well knew, I had certain routines I’d go through that I knew how to capture an audience, but I think I refined that a little bit because I like to feel an audience out in the beginning. There are certain things that I talk about, and I can tell from the reaction whether they’re gonna enjoy it or not. By the way I think it was during one of those times that I ended up in Texas at one, I think it was Abilene, Texas. And I had to give a talk to a big group of people. It was in a big convention center. I mean, there were a lot 1500.