About the few months after he stopped doing the show, he wanted to get reacquainted with his family. So his wife and his two sons, we all went to Africa to Tanzania. And around the table in the evening, (laughs) John is very private person and he doesn’t talk just to be talking. But around the evening he would start imitating animals. And he had a great time. But I told him about the danger that he was in with Doc. And he was very sensitive. He laughed at that cause he thought Doc was one of the best animals I ever had on.