And then he said, “Yeah, Jimmy.” He said, “Doc is so bad now with other males “that I tried to castrate him, “but I didn’t have time.” And then they said, “Here’s Jim Fowler.” So I had to go out with Doc. And I knew that I wasn’t gonna put him on Johnny’s desk because he had his heirlooms on the desk. And Doc had a habit of just going crazy and throwing things in the air. Which was the extent of the humor on the Johnny Carson Show. that’s why I had him on. So I had a table sitting out there with a chair on it, and other things. Well, I got Doc on the table and I thought this is gonna work. So he started kicking the table, the chairs, this has gone down in the history of the show.